Grand Theft Auto 6 Will Have No Microtransactions Or Generative AI

[u/TurbulentTopic39]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/grand-theft-auto-6-will-have-no-microtransactions-or-generative-ai/

[u/DerBanzai]

Code is shared over Github, people copy paste in in Teams and upload it to sharepoint. That‘s not any more vulnerable than using an LLM, you have to trust so many other companies now that one more doesn‘t really matter.
Companies that do not use these tools effectively will be left behind soon.

[u/dwild → u/DerBanzai]

Teams and upload it to sharepoint

That's part of the "having a contract with them". It's okay to use company tools obviously.

Code is shared over Github

And if that's not where your company code is hosted, you just probably went against your work contract. It does happen, but that's usualy considered a leak of information, and will be considered a security incident.

That‘s not any more vulnerable than using an LLM

The issue isn't the LLM, at least not directly, the issue is that you shouldn't share your company private information with a third party. You block them not because they are LLM, but because it is easy for people to forget it is what's happening when you are using those tools.

It's not a secret by the way that some do keep that information for training purpose. You can go on OpenRouter, they show clearly which provider does.

As I said, I'm pretty sure Rockstar does have a subscription to an LLM, as you said it is a useful tool (I disagree with the "left behind" part, but that doesn't matter here).

[u/BaconIsntThatGood → u/dwild]

That's part of the "having a contract with them". It's okay to use company tools obviously.

What makes you think you cannot get that with openai, anthropic, cursor, or copilot on an enterprise plan?

It's no different than any other company data policy.

[u/dwild → u/BaconIsntThatGood]

Can you point to where in any of my comments I am suggesting you couldn't get into in agreement with any of thoses?

I even said my work chose Copilot for that... Yeah it's no different than any other company data policy. You can use your company data over the tools they provide you, that include any SAAS, including LLMs.

[u/Echo_Monitor → u/dwild]

Realistically, companies share confidential data all the time.

They have email providers, usually use something like Jira, Confluence, GitHub/Gitlab, Slack/Teams, etc.

The issue is not having an LLM or not, it’s providing an enterprise license for the LLM the company chooses to use, with settings that are managed by the IT department at the company level.

There’s a big difference between, say, GitHub Copilot Max or one of their business plans, both in terms of pricing and in terms of policies.

[u/Ran4 → u/Echo_Monitor]

There's quite a few companies hosting these themselves though, but it's getting more and more rare.

[u/dwild → u/Echo_Monitor]

Can you go back to both my comments, read them, and explain what did I explain so bad? Thanks!

[u/Always_Naive → u/dwild]

As a bystander - your original comment response implies a rebbutal to the parent commenter saying that of course a rockstar sized company would use llms in dev work/coding. Every subsequent one of your comments is then read as trying to deny this

[u/dwild → u/Always_Naive]

The comment was essentially saying exactly what I said before that one, and that was me trying to explain more thoroughly the exact same thing as I said before that.

It was not a rebuttal, I'm even saying they probably use LLM. I seriously can't be that bad to explain 🤣

My point was that they probably actually BLOCK LLM unless they have a contract with that LLM, which they probably do have a contract with one or multiple of them.

[u/Always_Naive → u/dwild]

I'm assuming english isn't your first language (from the way you phrase certain things)? I think maybe somethings getting lost in translation? Whether they do or don't block specific llms doesn't really have that much bearing on the fact that they almost certainly use some kind of llm in development, so it's a sort of an unnecessary clarification

[u/dwild → u/Always_Naive]

Yes it is not my first language

Here's the original comment I was answering to:

Of course. AAA game as big as GTA6 with that many devs, if you're including gen AI as it pertains to code there is virtually 0% chance it hasn't contributed in some way. It'd be like saying none of the devs at any point used a search engine during development with where AI is today.

This comment was implying that because of the size of the project, for sure some devs would have used LLM.

My comment was responding that they probably blocked LLM to avoid this risk, but that I agree that they do PROBABLY (key word here) do use them, just not letting their employee post randomly their source code everywhere.

[u/Always_Naive → u/dwild]

I understand, I'm saying that because your response was an unnecessary clarification, it is being read as a rebuttal, which is maybe what's being lost.

[u/dwild → u/Always_Naive]

So you are saying jt was a unnecessary clarification to say that his whole comment probably couldn't be true?

Okay...

Thanks for trying though, but to me that just make me believe even more that people just barely read comments. I knew that not reading article was common, but commenting to a comment chain you barely read, that's a whole new thing to me.

[u/noodlesdefyyou → u/dwild]

it is absolutely bewildering the level of audacity AI/LLM 'adopters' have, saying 'oh if you dont use this tool youre going to be left behind!!!!'

uhm, no. im not going to be 'left behind'. quite the opposite in fact. not knowing a topic or subject, youre going to hit walls really fast. and because you didnt take the time to fundamentally understand what you were 'discussing', you wont realize youve hit a wall.

using this crap, all is does is give you the most likely predicted string of text that best resolves the query you provided. it doesnt teach you anything. it doesnt explain anything, it doesnt provide any sort of reinforcement.

and asking ai to 'teach you'? id much rather read the book written by someone whos been in the field/profession for 20, 30 years, than ask some hallucinating text generator.

we have this supercomputer sitting inside of our skulls, yet all the population seems to want to do is turn it off, and get all of their information from 6 second tik tok slop.

from an economic standpoint, its painfully obvious that this model is going to collapse, hard and fast when it finally starts to go. and people that relied solely on ai to do everything for them for the past 5 years, are suddenly going to be finding themselves without these 'tools' or any knowledge or experience to back up anything they did, and wind up with this gigantic gap in their life and experience. its almost sad, if it wasnt such a cult-like koolaid club.

ill stick with using my brain and challenging myself to learn new things daily, thanks.

[u/Rayvelion → u/DerBanzai]

The old "will be left behind soon" argument as a way of adding fear as a motivation when Bicycles are making a resurgence, plastics are falling out of favor as a health concern, and nonstick pans are leaving kitchens.

[u/DerBanzai → u/Rayvelion]

I do not understand what you mean by that.

[u/Rayvelion → u/DerBanzai]

ELY5: Many new technologies labelled as "progress" are later found to be dangerous or unneccesary or not as good as the people selling it say it is.

[u/Trollbreath4242 → u/DerBanzai]

Companies that do not use these tools effectively will be left behind soon.

False assertion. Companies will succeed or fail based on how good the products they ship are, and it will have nothing to do with whether or not they "effectively" use these LLM products. I assert that with full confidence, too, and can prove I'm right.

Proof: companies succeeded/failed at launching games BEFORE LLMs ever existed, and some of those games were fucking amazing.

See? You don't need a tool built off the code you already created to help you create code.