Because it’s Russia. Remember, they also didn’t report to the rest of the world that Chernobyl was in a meltdown, Sweden did first due to radiation seen there.
That’s to say I’m sure Russia knows a lot about it. They just don’t feel the need to inform us.
And technically speaking, they did. Granted, it was chemical weapons (hence invading the first time, to stop Hussein from gassing the Kurds - that wasn't just a silly party trick he was doing), and the public wanted the big scary mushroom cloud, but CBRN isn't just nukes.
Having said that, it was still a reprehensible decision that the US should not have gone with and the world should have recognized as illegitimate, but there are enough valid criticisms without trotting out tired lies.
And declassified documents prove that Iraqi targeting information for chemical weapons used in the Iran-Iraq war were all via US satellite reconnaissance. The US military has always outright denied providing any chemical weapons to Saddam's regime, however there may have been US 'contractors' who supplied potentially 'mixed-use' precursors and equipment which could have been used to manufacture industrial use chemicals, or potentially chemical weapons.
Agreed on the second part, especially these days. Previously I would say it qualifies as lying (as they all are, tbh) and terrorist (as most are in the current economic world order), but not rogue because they led the conversation. That's pretty much gone out the window since 2016.
But no, that first part is simply false. There were quantifiable amounts (and fun story, unquantifiable missing amounts!) of chemical weapons stored in Iraq prior to and during initial invasion. I've heard similar things about biologicals, but I know for damn sure about the chemicals.
We really don't disagree about the ultimate point, that it was still unjustified. I just don't think that it's a good idea to dilute the ultimate point with falsehoods along the way.
OMG this again. Inspectors found 50 gallon drums of organophosphate in the middle of the desert camouflaged by aerial color netting. What do you need liquid pesticide for in the middle of the desert, unless that liquid is actually sarin gas when vaporized? 122mm rockets were also found loaded sarin and cyclosarin warheads. They were discounted as legacy weapons or not weaponized so they didn’t count as WMD. I guess that was good enough for people who just want to hate the west.
In Russia everyone already knows the details. It’s just your media don’t tell you in details so you could say “because it’s Russia”. No, it’s because the media is manipulating.
First of all, I am not Russian or from Russia, but I fluently know it. Secondly, believing your media is only trustworthy means how the propaganda machine works very well.
When the dictat…lead …oligarch of Russia was a KGB agent under the Communist Party’s rule, and tries to re-occupy nations that were once part of the USSR, it’s not unreasonable for someone to make the USSR/Russia slip of the tongue.
The structure of their government and culture is entirely different than it was 30 years ago... chernobyl didn't even happen in Russia.
"Slip of the tongue" in this regard is just kinda racism. People who are 36 years old in Russia never lived during a time when the Soviet union existed. Just because putin is a dictator doesn't make it any less racism to just call all those people equal to soviets
Its not racism. Its not even alluding to the people... its saying in Russia, the regime is not that much different then the USSR in terms of how freely they share bad news. You are not defending "the people" with that argument, you are defending the dictator.
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u/Itchy_Feedback_7625 3h ago
Because it’s Russia. Remember, they also didn’t report to the rest of the world that Chernobyl was in a meltdown, Sweden did first due to radiation seen there.
That’s to say I’m sure Russia knows a lot about it. They just don’t feel the need to inform us.