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Researcher at Russian plague laboratory dies of ‘unknown’ infection

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/04/europe/russia-laboratory-plague-accident-intl
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u/ItsFruityKiwi 5h ago

A lot of people cannot access healthcare for many reasons, or it would kill them too quickly to get treatment. Or the treatment could kill them. The world is not black and white. Coronavirus killed many intelligent people who were unable to access the vaccine, or got the disease regardless of vaccination and passed. Intelligence is not the only virtue, as well.

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u/Fit_Cut_4238 2h ago

Except that we don’t have to research a solution for this, we already have treatment.

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u/MustardCanary 2h ago

But what if somebody can’t access treatment? Maybe they can’t afford it, maybe they can’t afford the time needed to get treatment or to rest and heal, maybe the infrastructure of their country is not equipped to handle mass events. What if they have a weakened immune system?

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u/WatermelonWithAFlute 1h ago edited 1h ago

Isn’t the treatment for plague just antibiotics

Edit: apparently not all classes of them are effective

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u/ItsFruityKiwi 1h ago

"A lot of people cannot access healthcare for many reasons, or it would kill them too quickly to get treatment. Or the treatment could kill them. The world is not black and white."

Can you read English?

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u/WinIndependent8614 3h ago

Education is not a cure or free pass, but very few people died because they couldn’t get a vaccine that were intelligent. Very few passed that actually received the vaccine also. 9 deaths recorded out of 19,000 caused by the vaccine, those were Johnson and Johnson vaccines caused blood clots. Education is key, getting the answers right is key to passing a education.

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u/MustardCanary 2h ago

What about the people who died before a vaccine was available?

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u/ItsFruityKiwi 1h ago

Holy shit you've got major ignorance and rich privilege problems. You've never heard of disabled and immunocompromised people?? People who don't have cars and the nearest place giving vaccines is 3 hours away?? Gods you're so ignorant while preaching about education.

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u/ItsFruityKiwi 1h ago

I was so confused for a sec lmao everyone just calls me Kiwi

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u/Yeetball86 5h ago

The only thing the mRNA vaccine introduced was idiots who didn’t understand it

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u/Goods4188 5h ago

What were the problems it introduced?

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u/Shot-Ad-9296 4h ago

Many claims about blood clots and miscarriages increase with moms who took it during pregnancy or shortly before. But I do think this odd case is one of those that if it did get out there I would be very concerned.

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u/Goods4188 4h ago

Any tangible evidence or just “claims”?

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u/ArtichokeMedium415 3h ago

Search NHI. It's all there.

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u/spellingishard27 5h ago

idk what you’re smoking, but you should stop

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u/get_them_duckets 5h ago

I got myocarditis due to my second shot of Covid vaccine. I would’ve been better off actually getting Covid. I won’t be doing that again. I’ll risk losing my job if something like that happens again and they force me to take a vaccine that got rushed through.

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u/Pleasant_Character28 4h ago

So, apparently 1 in 37000 people got myocarditis from the shot. I’ll take those odds.

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u/HugaM00S3 5h ago

Bro, you are risking losing more than your job. I actually had family members that refused the vaccine that ended up in the hospital and one even died.

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u/get_them_duckets 4h ago

I ended up the hospital too. What do you think myocarditis is like? You think you just go to urgent care and it just goes away?

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u/HugaM00S3 1h ago

Inflammation of the heart. You do realize you you were a rare case and that you most likely would’ve ended up myocarditis had you gotten full blown Covid right? You were unfortunately that 1 in 160000+ people that was reported to have that side effect.

That being said, I’m sorry you had to go through that. I can both emphasize and sympathize with you. For me, the vaccine was mandatory for me. Because I had late stage renal failure caused by polycystic kidney disease. I either got the vaccine or would be removed from transplant list. Had Covid when it first hit the states February 2020. Two weeks of hell. My kidneys were/are the size of an American football with cyst growth. Non stop puking and everything else constantly had me feeling like o was getting kicked in the nuts.

I respect your decision in the future, I’m only saying I caution you as the alternative very wel could’ve been worse.

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u/get_them_duckets 41m ago

I ended up with Covid later anyways. And you needing the vaccine because you have health conditions that puts you at risk makes sense. Like getting the flu vaccine if you are in an at risk group. I wasn’t in an at risk group. But that didn’t matter.

There’s also a significant chance that I wouldn’t have gotten myocarditis without the vaccine and getting Covid. No way to know. But I know what happened instead of a hypothetical. I was forced to get a vaccine that I wanted to wait to get for more research done on since I wasn’t in an at risk group. Nope, became mandatory. I’ll never forgive the government or the medical establishment for telling me to ignore my own knowledge of risk mitigation and calculation.

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u/Intrepid_Cap1242 4h ago

It wasn't rushed. The technology existed for years. And myocarditis was rare and temporary. If it was indeed from the vaccine and not the disease, it was still better than dying from covid

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u/get_them_duckets 4h ago

Zero co-morbidities for Covid, I was most likely not going to die from Covid. Perfect health until I had myocarditis from the second shot. Healthy age, in great shape.

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u/Intrepid_Cap1242 4h ago

My friend's dad was perfect health. Healthy age. Great shape. He died from covid

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u/get_them_duckets 4h ago

Was he 30 years old?

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u/Intrepid_Cap1242 4h ago

Let's go with yes

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u/get_them_duckets 4h ago

I’m going to go with you made that up. I know people who did die from Covid, older and usually already in poor health, or overweight or had a comorbidity. I can make risk based assessments on my own health. Instead I was forced to take something I didn’t want to until I had more data and had a bad reaction to it and I can’t sue because of emergency use authorization. That’s on Trump to protect his big pharma friends.

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u/Dawn_effect 4h ago

Darwin in action.

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u/spellingishard27 4h ago

the risk of myocarditis is higher from actual covid than it is from the vaccine. and there are some people who can’t get vaccines for various reasons. you’ve had a bad reaction to an mRNA covid vaccine, so not getting another one out of caution is probably a good idea. however, it’s a bad idea to tell other people to not get vaccinated. vaccines save lives

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u/get_them_duckets 4h ago

I’m just speaking for myself. People can do what they want. I’m not anti-vaccine but I definitely would have rather of had more data behind it before I had to have it. I had no co-morbidities, perfect health. Most likely Covid would not have been an issue for me, but I ended up in the hospital with people who had Covid so obviously I couldn’t isolate anymore, had to stop working out until my heart was healthy enough.

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u/MrSquid20 4h ago

Who said it was a “cure”? It’s ok to not understand science and biology, but don’t make yourself look dumb.

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u/ArtichokeMedium415 4h ago

Uh oh, I walked into the viper nest. NHI has plenty of resources on the subject for those who'd rather read the science than throw down votes at someone. Even if you only listen to MSM, they ran the same stories in 2023.

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u/ItsFruityKiwi 4h ago

... a vaccine isn't a cure... what are you talking about??

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