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Researcher at Russian plague laboratory dies of ‘unknown’ infection

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/04/europe/russia-laboratory-plague-accident-intl
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u/Spare_Sheepherder772 6h ago

Why are the Russians manufacturing the plague again??

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u/81659354597538264962 6h ago

It’s the only way they’ll pose a threat in WW3

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u/Zombisexual1 5h ago

They do have nukes. And a lot of people. They definitely aren’t the top threat though

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u/Edwardteech 5h ago

Im not 100 they have nukes that work.

And they don't have enough people to overrun Ukraine let alone anywhere else.

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u/Nigh_Sass 4h ago

I’m convinced the U.S. intelligence forces have shuttered a lot of the Russian nuclear threat in ways we don’t even know about yet

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u/TheTbone2334 2h ago

They have. They have used non nuclear ICBMs twice against Ukraine which can be armed with a nuclear warhead.

Theyr Iskander both type M and Type K (Short to medium range ballistic missiles and cruise missiles) can be armed with a nuclear payload and fly dozens of times each month.

Theyr military doctrine is based around nuclear weapons since decades. You'd need to be an idiot to seriously doubt they have functionial nukes.

They might not have 8000 ready to use, but a couple hundred to fire immediatly are enough to cause serious damage.

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u/Maximum_Turn_2623 4h ago

Oh you don’t think they will be using them in Ukraine?

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u/ThatEndingTho 4h ago

Given the prevailing winds blow east, a nuclear detonation in Ukraine will result in fallout travelling on the wind into Russia.

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u/OrgasmicTrilobite 47m ago

I don’t think they give a fuck

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u/duckbow 4h ago

Even Putin would rather not risk ending humanity.

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u/81659354597538264962 3h ago

Indeed, they will not be.

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u/Cogitating_Polybus 4h ago

Not if they don’t work.

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u/duckbow 4h ago

The hard part is enriching uranium and/or plutonium, which they absolutely have

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u/Edwardteech 3h ago

They also have to maintain them. Which costs a not so small fortune. If they don't they don't go nuclear. 

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u/Top_Bug7822 16m ago

"A lot of people"

A lot of carriers you mean.

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u/KryWinterbird 5h ago

I hope you’re trying to be funny lol
We keep diseases around and consistently assess how they adapt/mutate, and how to prevent them killing people again.
Diseases morph and change to outlast the treatments we’ve created, all the time.

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u/CatsPlusTats 6h ago

The plague still has over 1000 cases globally every year.

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u/Cheeko-chi 5h ago

That’s it? Damn I expected more to be honest.

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u/Serious_Action_2336 5h ago

Most major nations will still have storied disease, even really nasty ones

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u/bb_kelly77 6h ago

The lab is probably their equivalent of our CDC labs

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u/lemon-meringue-high 5h ago

The same reason the us and Russia (I think) are collecting smallpox I guess

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u/MadPangolin 5h ago

No, officially Russia is the only country that keeps active smallpox in storage. Everyone else keeps inert versions for study. The Russian version can then back into historical smallpox.

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u/BanjoMothman 5h ago

They aren't. The plague is still in the wild.

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u/Comprehensive-Act-13 5h ago

They’re not, it’s because the Tundra is melting and all of the diseases that died out 10000 years ago were just lying dormant and frozen in Siberia.

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u/PTSD1983 5h ago

Well, if they dont do it, america or china may win the race. It's the future. Dont get left behind!

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u/TheIronMonkey53 6h ago

Idk, this is going to plague me

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u/Fasting_Monster 6h ago

Because China said it was their turn.

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u/Ok_Matter_2617 5h ago

They gotta find a way to get rid of Putin somehow

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u/Dirk_Kailis 5h ago

Who isn’t?

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u/DiscHashDisc 5h ago

Do you think any major power isn't fucking with plague and every other pathogen?

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u/Xenon009 5h ago

On a genuine note, the plague continues to exist in mongolia because of, primarily, marmots giving the plague a nice bit ecosystem. And not caring about borders, often travels into China and siberia, so this lab is designed to try and stop that.

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u/IDriveALexus 5h ago

I hate to break it to you but most powerful nations have their own research teams devoted to plagues. The CDC is not all sunshines and covid tests

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u/Lilylake_55 5h ago

Probably the same reason that that our Department of Defense had scientists do the same thing with polio in 2002…because they could.

The 2002 Experiment
The Team: Researchers led by Dr. Eckhard Wimmer, Jeronimo Cello, and Aniko Paul at the State University of New York at Stony Brook performed the work.

How They Did It: They ordered short pieces of DNA by mail using genetic sequence information found publicly on the internet. They stitched the pieces together to match the 7,500-base RNA genome of the poliovirus and added a cell-free human cell extract to assemble infectious viral particles.

The Result: The synthetic virus behaved like the real thing and paralyzed or killed mice in laboratory tests.

Purpose and Impact
Funding: The research was partly funded by the Pentagon's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) to understand biosecurity threats.

Biosecurity Warning: The scientists wanted to prove that pathogens could be manufactured from scratch using mail-order chemicals without needing a natural sample of the virus. This sparked global debates about regulating gene sequences and the security risks of synthetic biology.

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u/Exotic-Day-1082 5h ago

They don’t have to manufacture it, we have it here in the U.S. in the wild. A few people get it every year or so. If it is the pneumonic form that’s bad.

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u/ADDSquirell69 4h ago

Read the book Demon in the Freezer

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u/MathAndBake 4h ago

Among other things, in order to test possible antibiotics on it. The plague is endemic to the steppes. They need to be able to treat it.

Loads of labs around the world are growing cultures of MRSA, salmonella, tuberculosis, etc. It's the way we get better medical care. I once got a tour of a lab in Montreal studying Ebola. It had a lot of redundant systemsto keep everyone safe. These kinds of places are the reason we have vaccine candidates now.

Is it possible that some countries are also doing some bioweapons research on the side? Absolutely. But so far, there's no evidence that's what's happening here.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Mix1270 4h ago

Why did the USA & China create Covid?

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u/RandallOfLegend 4h ago

Giving someone an excuse to suspend elections?

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u/zerosum79 1h ago

Because they are assholes and lost the cold war.

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u/inokentii 1h ago

Same reason why russians for twelve years already stuck in steppes near Donetsk
They want to exterminate all Ukrainians but can’t do it with conventional weapons

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u/hypnos_surf 27m ago

The irony is that the research at this laboratory is said to be dedicated to anti-plague research.

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u/King_GC 6h ago

Probably cause temu hitler needs help again and will release it for mid terms

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u/BobbuBobbu 6h ago

I think he's closer to Temu Stalin. We all know who temu Hitler is.

Hint: He poops his pants on live TV regularly.

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u/its_kgs_not_lbs 5h ago

Easy way to wipe out Ukraine without nukes.

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u/Leather-Marketing478 6h ago

Bubonic plague? A little penicillin will take care of that.

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u/YourDrunkStepdadio 5h ago

It will be called Super Plague

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u/Technical-Agency8128 5h ago

Super duper plague

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u/sblack33741 6h ago

Not if they have used some sort of gain of function.

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u/unicornlocostacos 5h ago

Or if certain coutries are run by cretins who ban it because…

spins wheel

“It makes people communist and gay”

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u/MadPangolin 5h ago

...you guys don't understand what that means... what "gain of function" could they give it?

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u/sblack33741 5h ago

You can do a number of things, make it antibiotic resistant as a bio-weapon, make it more virulent, etc.

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u/MadPangolin 5h ago

We...already have super-antibiotic resistant bacteria?

And we already have groundbreaking research showing that bacteria can pass genes/genetic traits to each other...

So a bacteria with natural resistance to antibiotics can share that with Yersina Pestis without human intervention?

Bacteria can share genes with each other through a process called horizontal gene transfer. This can occur between bacteria of the same or different species via several mechanisms, under the right conditions. Gene transfer leads to genetic variation in bacteria and poses a significant problem when it comes to the spread of antibiotic resistance genes.
https://www.reactgroup.org/toolbox/understand/antibiotic-resistance/transfer-of-antibiotic-resistance/

So maybe leave the science to the experts & not just yell out "gain of function" fearmongering?

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u/sblack33741 5h ago

So why do you think they are working on it?

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u/MadPangolin 4h ago

Because we have to learn how the world works! If you want to learn how bacteria** **genetics presents phenotypical (how a specific gene works to give it a new or enhanced biological traits) which help scientists understand disease mechanisms, predict viral evolution, and design effective vaccines and treatments.

We can't just sit & watch bacteria develop using old-fashion ways like...time... how else do we learn how bacteria evolve without...trying to force them to evolve & watch as it happens?

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u/sblack33741 4h ago

Scientific research is amazing, powerful, and sometimes dangerous. There is a certain amount og hubris in altering life, forcing evolution and then thinking we can control it. They didn't, and now someone is dead. With luck, they will be the only one. I live outside Ft. Dietrich, so I may be a little sensitive. Lol

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u/MadPangolin 3h ago

You have no evidence they didn't ? Do you? You have no evidence to back your claim? You're rely on fear & emotion?

There's hubris in ALL science? We split the atom? We're trying to live in space where no life lives?

Now run the numbers on how many people have been saved because we figured out how to force e.Coli to evolve & produce insulin for diabetics? Yknow, putting in genes that allow a bacteria to "gain a function" that great advanced medicine?

"Recombinant human insulin is commercially produced using Escherichia coli (E. coli) by inserting synthetic human insulin genes into bacterial plasmids to manufacture the hormone via fermentation"

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u/NK1337 5h ago

How else is Trump supposed to win in 2028

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u/Hinder90 5h ago

Who says it's actually the plague? It's looking like something far more dangerous.

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u/TheRealLians 5h ago

They saw how successful Covid was!

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u/Visual-Program2447 5h ago

Same reason fauci was in the USA.

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u/heathers1 5h ago

We have proven that a bioweapon can wipe out the population of the US, why wouldn't every country be working on that? Magas will be out there sneering and coughing the plague on kids and stuff.

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u/Vast-Road-6387 5h ago

They never stopped. The US was in the virus business until the 1970’s ( might still be). China certainly is ( covid 19).